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Don't Use A Flow Rate That Creates Turbulence!

50 max The typical gas flow rate through a MIG gun is about 30 CFH that is only 0.5 CFM.  It is very low, about a human breathing rate when sitting!  There is a maximum flow rate, that if exceeded, will cause turbulent flow that mixes air into the more bettershielding gas stream causing weld quality problems.  For a typical 5/8 inch ID industrial MIG nozzle size, that maximum velocity is about 50 to 60 CFH.  For a smaller welder using a 1/2 inch ID nozzle the max flow rate is about 40 CFH. Setting flows higher than these rates is counter productive! (See reference 4 from The Welding Institute)

Who would use more than these flow levels?  The answer is often every MIG welder at the weld start! The reason and way to fix it, is covered in this TIP of the MONTH

In addition, some folks when setting shielding gas flow believe, "If some is good, more must be better" - They Are Wrong!

 
 
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Calculations of MIG Shielding Gas Use Are Bogus! 

They are often low by over 80% !

A Patented Gas Delivery Hose System that:

  1. Reduces weld start gas surge 80/85%, while providing sufficient extra gas to purge air from start area.

  2. Cuts total gas use typically in half; as users who carefully measured report.

  3. Improves weld start quality, by limiting peak surge flow rate avoiding turbulence.

  4. Maintains preset welding gas flow rate by retaining gas pressure to compensate for flow restrictions.

Patented FB3 and FB4 GSS’s are for smaller shops and home welders. "Cuts" gas waste while improving gas "Shield." They assist as skills devlope to make quality, good looking welds or maybe to become a "master welder!"These welders use smaller size gas cylinders and often make shorter welds and tack welds.  The “gas blast” at every weld start not only wastes considerable gas, it leads to excess spatter, poor weld shape, and possibly internal porosity.  That excess flow rate pulls air into the shielding gas stream.  The turbulent flow created lasts for a short time even after flow rate reduces until desired laminar flow is attained. This inferior gas shield exists for much of a short weld!  Peak flow rates can exceed 150 CFH.
By saving wasted shielding gas at the weld start, higher gas flows can be used when welding in drafts or outdoors.  This provides better weld quality while still using less total gas!

Testimonials

Al Hackethal sent this email after purchasing a 3 foot, FB3 GSS for his small MIG welder.  Well, I can't believe it.  I never thought a hose could make that much of a difference.  The weld quality (with the GSS), and even penetration is considerable better.  Almost no spatter!  Initially thought that my imagination had kicked in, but then realized that the gas I'm buying is actually working the way it's supposed to.  Glad I found your website.  This is one of the few things that really works better than any info could suggest.  I understood the theory, though in practice I understood it much better after the first couple of welds.  Now I have better looking welds and almost no spatter, which means less grinding and finish work!  In addition, the tip was cleaner after the job I just did.

Another customer, Jason Insley, had this to say “Everything worked fine.  And my weld starts have definitely improved since installing the GSS

In Summary

The GSS cuts gas waste using a small ID, heavy wall thickness hose with a peak flow limiting restrictor.  This cuts starting gas surge by 85%. 
The GSS provides better quality weld starts by reducing shielding gas turbulence.  For short welds excess turbulence can last for much of the weld.
It typically pays for itself in one gas cylinder refill.  Over 10,000 are in use.
Instructions supplied with FB3 and FB4 products include shielding tips for smaller welders.  Tips like an expalnation of why you should NEVER use a self-shielded flux cored wire in combination with a gas shield!  They also provide suggestions when welding outdoors.

“Cut Gas Waste - Improve Gas Shield”

CLICK to Download PDF of SilverShield GSS  Flyer in 2 Column Formate

CLICK to Download PDF of SilverShield GSS  Flyer in 1 Column Formate

 
 

The success of the Lincoln Electric Company is due to the business methods developed by J. F. Lincoln.  He evolved and sustained unique business practices that allowed Lincoln Electric to be a major factor in the development of the welding industry.  He managed the Company from 1914 until his death in 1965 at age 82.  Bill Irrgang succeeded Jim Lincoln and continued his business philosophies until 1986.  The company adapted to current times and continues to be very successful as a worldwide, focused welding business. 

A summary of the key points of the business management books written by J. F. Lincoln and some direct experiences related to the company is available as a PDF download.  The similarities to the management techniques employed by Henry Ford as well as Fred Taylor's work on scientific management are included.

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J. F.  Lincoln�s Management System was threatened by US government policies in the late 1930�s.  He wrote a number of letters and articles about his concerns that were published in local newspapers.  Lincoln Electric workers were doing well in a period where government intervention was making things worse!  One small section of our review contains quotes of his thoughts.  The following are some quotes abstracted from James Lincoln�s management  books and one written by Virginia Dawson in 1999 entitled �Lincoln-a history.,�  All these books are available from the James F. Lincoln Foundation Library at: http://www.jflfoundation.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=24 

Many of his thoughts are applicable to today�s environment!

�For the first time in American history, free enterprise is being destroyed by high-minded incompetents who have only the best interest of American at heart, but whose knowledge of what makes the economy successfully progress is completely nil.�  �Because of this and their soft-hearted �do-gooder� attitude in which they are perhaps entirely honest, they are destroying America.�

�Desire for freedom was why America was founded.�  �Our present policy of government-promised security is providing a race of incompetent softies�  �The program of the various deals, �New� and �Fair� has already stopped and reversed the development on which we depend for our future progress and national security.�  �We have developed a philosophy which shuns individual responsibility.�  �When all citizens depend on government support, it takes most of the earnings of most producers to provide a bare living for all.�  �One way to remedy a slip (in the economy) is to borrow from the future and live at the old rate on borrowed money.�  �The problem with the next generation suffering for our sins leaves us cold.  Why worry about them they are not even born yet.�

�The loafer should not be allowed to live on the efforts of the worker.�  �This is an easy way out but its national suicide, as history shows.�  �Every nation that has disappeared has gone through the same sequence and the same result; 1st softening of peoples ambition and lessening incentives; 2nd increase in numbers of people who fail to develop themselves or their latent abilities; 3rd a feeling of helplessness; 4th public support for all who ask for it; 5th insolvency of the economy as fewer will work to care for the careless and because of the softening process; and 6th being surpassed by a virile nation that has not gone soft.�

�Few (politicians) understand what makes free enterprise succeed.�  �Will the average person exercise their responsibility as a citizen of a representative government so the freedom on which is future depends will continue?  Our experience under Roosevelt and Truman answers the question with a definite NO.�  �  Putting the power of the state over the operations of industry is called socialism by some, communism by others; in actuality, it is called a totalitarian government where the citizen is a serf of government directed by bureaucracy.  �No bureaucrat can operate any industry successfully.�  �If the present attitude in Washington continues this will not be a place where either you or I or your grandchildren can live with any degree of satisfaction.�

In 1938 Jim Lincoln retaliated and refused to invest in the USA and visited Australia where they were rugged individuals.  Lincoln worked with a local steel company who promised to supply the companies product needs.  The Lincoln Electric Company (Australia) Proprietary Limited opened the same year of his visit.  Jim Lincoln also started a business in the England in the 1930�s.  However, at the end of WWII he strongly disapproved of the elected Labor Government and sold the business, including the Lincoln name in the UK, for $400,000!

Totalitarianism-My Experience

My experience with the effects of totalitarian rule reinforces the illogic of a central bureaucracy managing the needs and wants of the individual.

In the mid 1970�s we participated in a technical exchange with a famous Russian welding institute.  We both had targeted objectives, ours was electroslag welding and fused flux manufacture, and theirs bonded flux manufacture and flux cored wire.  After several years, we made little progress.  We decided to keep the last meeting small.  Two representatives from Russia came to the Ohio R&D lab that I managed, a researcher who we had grown to know and the �interpreter� (who participated in every exchange visit and was actually more than an interpreter!)  We had been told that in a previous visit to our Ohio Lab they believed we had taken them to the �mayor�s� house for dinner, as they could not believe it was the home of our business manager.  I decided for this last visit to pick them up at the airport and take them to McDonalds for lunch to show how the average American ate.  During lunch, the researcher asked an interesting question.  What was the difference in pay between our engineers and technicians?  I thought about the salaries, the overtime pay the technician earned and the increased taxes paid by the engineer because of his salary level and felt it was about 30%.  I then asked what the differences were in Russia.  He said, �Much more and difficult to measure.  For example, because of my position I can get an apartment my technician cannot, he and his family live with his parents.  I can get a new car, it may take 6 months to a year but I can get on the list, he cannot.  Food is inexpensive for both but for many other products my family gets priority.�  I then asked about the cost of a refrigerator to get a feel for a typical product price.  He said, �Oh refrigerators are very cheap because the central planners made many more than people need!  However, you cannot get a washing machine because they did not plan enough!�  That prompted a conversation in Russian between him and the �interpreter� which was obviously contentious!

During that same visit, I had to ask my good friend and Cubin born technician to stay home because of his expressed passionate dislike of Russians.  His father had a small farm in Cuba and my friend would help pick tobacco from their field and roll a cigar for his dad.  He and some of his family were able to leave Cuba when the Castro regime took over but his dad stayed.  His farm was taken away from him by the regime but it did not go to the �people� it went to the communist mayor of the town!  My friend�s emotions were so high, it was better to have him stay home then perform a demonstration for our guests as had been planned!  (Some years later, he was able to get his dad out of Cuba during the �Freedom Flotilla.�)

A reinforcement of the effects of central planning occurred in the mid 1980�s when we had a welding equipment factory in West Germany.  A large welding fixture builder purchased our US made submerged arc equipment.  I was visiting to discuss a number of multi-electrode welding machines he was selling to Russia.  I asked if it bothered him to sell to the Russians since it was obvious from his comments he had no love for them!  He said, with a laugh, �No, because the central planners in Moscow always buy products the fabricating plant does not need.  In addition, by the time they transport the product to a plant many of the parts are stolen!� (Picture left is the first 3-wire submerged arc all AC power welding system that welded at 3000 amps making large diameter natural gas and oil transmission pipe. We developed the system in the late 1960's and 8 such systems were installed at this US Steel Pipe Mill in Provo Utah, 11 at Armco Steel in Houston -and in a number of other pipemills around the world -unfortunately, like most USA UOE  pipemills , those mentioned are no longer in existence!)

Karl Marx: I recall a biography of Karl Marx I read some years ago.  A writer visited his apartment and said he had to sit in a chair that had dried puss from boils!  Marx and his family lived in squalor!  Found the following in the Internet:  �He was covered with carbuncles, furuncles and boils and he complained about them in letters.  They were painful, and large, and at times a doctor had to lance and drain them.  In describing one such operation, he said the size of the boil was as big as his wife's fist. Marx wrote he was covered head to toe in the eruptions. He also wrote about having them on his backside and his most private parts.  Doctors, long after his death, determined he was suffering from Hidradenitis Suppurativa, a disease of the sweat glands found in the armpits and groin.�  When reading his writings, I wonder how many folks consider how this may have influenced or distorted his perspective!

Some social safety net programs are needed and can be provided by private charities or the federal government.  However an incident reminds me of the abuses and unintended lifestyle consequences that are created with federal programs rather than local operated programs or private charities.

I obtained two masters degrees in the evenings, while working in a welding R&D lab.  I would eat on the run between work and class.  The primary "dinner" spot was a hot dog push-cart operated by an immigrate from a former iron Curtain country.  I recall we would discuss his desire to expand his business and I suggested buying another cart and hiring an employee.  He was reluctant to trust anyone to be as hard working as he was or to assure they were honest!  He was having to address some of the risks all entrepreneurs must face!

One evening, a friend of his was ordering a hot dog and discussing his personal dilemma.  He was complaining that he had two children, a boy and a girl, but his "federal government housing" only allowed him two bedrooms.  The children were getting old enough that they needed separate bedrooms.  The hot dog vendor told his friend, "Well, if you have one more child you'll be eligible for three bedrooms!" His solution was based on the rules some "bureaucratic do-gooder" thought were reasonable!  But like having more children without being married allows more government  subsidies, this creates  inappropriate,  destructive behavior.  If the federal government feels obligated to get involved in these programs, give the monies to state and local governments where these unintended consequences and irrationalities can be monitored and funds better applied.

Some Thoughts for Today:

It is currently much easier to start businesses around the world than it was when Jim Lincoln objected to government polices and sought to develop businesses outside the US.  Companies and individuals can leave an oppressive situation and move offshore.

There certainly are some inequities in the economy that should be fixed.  Tax loopholes are fostered by Lobbyists,  Lawyers, Accountants and Politicians who exploit them to support their jobs!  These should be closed.  True entrepreneurs who risk their money should be rewarded with no limit.  However rewarding Wall Street types with huge, unlimited bonuses when they have none of their own money at risk is irrational.  The same applies to corporate executives when huge unlimited bonuses can be earned with no personal financial risk.  This often promotes very short-term thinking and possible manipulation of financial results.  For public companies, assuring the appropriateness of top executive salaries is the role of the Board of Directors employing compensation committees and proper salary surveys.  Stockholders should insist these tasks be appropriately structured, which is current law.  For a vast majority of companies, executive salaries and bonuses are appropriate and are being properly scrutinized.  The Board of Directors must be held accountable for abuses.  However making more complex laws in attempt to "manage" this function just leads to unintended consequences.  Just like NASCAR racing, make the rules apparently very restrictive and racers still find ways to get around them-legally!  It�s a game!  That is what is happening in Washington DC; Lobbyists,  Lawyers, Accountants and Politicians become rich finding ways around complex unneeded laws! 

Revise the tax code, be it a multilevel flat tax or whatever-but make it simple.

 

Fabricators: The following is a way to save shielding gas waste and significant cost so you can be more competitive and hire more folks!

High Waste Case:

To evaluate a high waste case, assume gas waste is the high  side defined in the literature, i.e. gas usage is 6 times what is needed with a high duty cycle which reduces Labor Percentage.

Shielding gas would now be 32% of welding costs!  Probably higher than actual unless your welders are also setting much to high a flow rate. 

See Details of Calculations Used for This Information:

NO Gas Waste Case: Most MIG gas use calculations make no consideration for  shielding gas waste.  The resulting weld cost  pie chart is shown on the left.  This is what is typically published as a way of calculating shielding gas costs.  Shielding gas is shown as only 5 % of total cost  and less than wire costs which are 7%.  This is based on an unrealistic assumption of no gas waste.  It�s Bogus!

 

Don�t feel badly if you find out your using far more gas than you should!  An  analysis done for a major fabricator showed they were wasting 83% of their Argon and 90% of their CO2!  In addition to  the high gas surge at the weld start they were setting excess flow rates and they also had leaks. 

Want information on how to measure and monitor leaks on an ongoing bases?  CLICK TO SEE our Lean Welding Manufacturing Self Study Programs related to gas usage. 

 

Click on Email ICON and ask for more information.

 

  1. Weber, R., How to Save 20% on Welding Costs. Trailer/Body Builders, Volume 44, Number 3, January 2003

  2. Standifer, L. R., Shielding Gas Consumption Efficiency. The Fabricator, Volume 30, Number 6, June 2000.

 

MIG Shielding Gas Flow Control is Much More Complex Then it Appears 
The first Gas Saver System Video shows our ’34 Pro Street Rod with its sound system playing "Roll Over Beethoven."  That song referred to Beethoven rolling over in his grave if he heard Rock and Roll!  A comment followed saying the famous fluid mechanics scientist who defined the basic equations that make airplanes fly in the 1700's, Daniel Bernoulli, would  "Roll Over in His Grave" because of our lack of understand of MIG shielding gas control and the cause of very high gas waste!

MIG gas flow control is much more complex than it first appears. We’ll provide a quick overview and link to other pages in this website for more details if you want to understand it fully.

The gas flow rate through a MIG gun at 30 CFH is only 0.5 CFM.  It is very low, about a human breathing rate when sitting!  There is a maximum flow rate, that if exceeded, will cause turbulent flow, which mixes air into the shielding gas stream causing weld quality problems.  For a typical 5/8 inch ID industrial MIG nozzle size, that velocity is about 50 to 60 CFH.  Setting flows higher than that level is counter productive! (See reference 4 from The Welding Institute)

Who would use more than these flow levels?  The answer is, often every MIG welder at the weld start! The reason is covered below!  In addition, some folks believe, "if some is good, more must be better" when it comes to shielding gas flow-they are wrong!

An important factor is the pressure needed in the gas delivery hose to flow gas through a welding machine (or wire feeder,) MIG gun cable, gun and nozzle will vary from about 3 to 7 psi.  The amount needed will change as flow restrictions change when welding.  These flow restriction changes are caused by:

a) bends of the small gas passage in the gun cable,
b) spatter blocking one or more of the small gas diffuser holes,
c) spatter build-up in the  nozzle, and
d) since, in most MIG gun cables, the gas hose doubles as the holder of the spiral wire liner
; wire drawing compound, shop dust and copper flakes from a steel wire that build up in that area. They not only cause wire feeding problems they cause flow restrictions!

With these flow restriction changes the flow rate set with a flowmeter needle valve or an orifice in a regulator/flowgauge would cause the flow to vary significantly.  The engineers who designed the MIG flow control  system when the process was introduced, knew this was a problem and employed a flow control approach that would automatically compensate for restrictions downstream of the flow control device.  The approach used relies on the fact that the speed of the a gas through a small opening in a needle valve or orifice cannot exceed the speed of sound When the speed of sound is reached, that speed in a small opening is what controls flow and it does not depend on the downstream pressure.  To achieve what is called "choked flow" that provides this Automatic Flow Compensation, the absolute pressure (gauge pressure + atmospheric pressure)  upstream of the flow control device must be 2.1 times the  absolute downstream pressure.  Using 2:1 for an approximate calculation, see figure below for the pressure required:

The figure left shows the pressure needed to achieve "choked flow" is 25 psi.  It is no coincidence that quality flow controls shown in this picture use pressures from 25 to 80 psi. The engineers that designed MIG and TIG flow control systems when these processes were introduced, knew of the varying flow restrictions and designed to automatically compensate so flows remained at the initial settings.

If high pressure solves the consistent flow problem, is there a downside?  Yes, when welding stops and the solenoid closes in the welder or wire feeder, gas continues to flow though the needle valve or orifice and quickly fills the gas delivery hose with more gas which raises the pressure.  It reaches the pressure of the regulator or pipeline. This stores a lot of excess gas equal to, in the case right (80+15)/(4+15) = 5 times the hose volume of excess gas.  We also find a typical 1/4 inch ID hose expands another 13% at the high pressure.  Therefore,  the excess gas in the hose is 5 x 1.13 = 5.7 the physical hose volume!  However using pressure less than 25 psi, as some have tried with devices like "Gas Guards" creates bigger, less obvious problems than what they are trying to solve! This eliminates Automatic Flow Compensation causing wide variations in flow.  See test result comparisons of a proper flow control with a commercial low pressure device.
That excess gas, stored in the gas delivery hose when welding stops, "blasts out" of the MIG nozzle at each weld start!  This high flow not only wastes gas but the high velocity (we have measured peak flows exceeding 200 CFH) creates a high degree of turbulence that causes air to be pulled into the shielding gas stream.  The air causes problems with weld quality and produces excess spatter.  This gas waste can be over half the total gas used. 

The solution to the gas waste and high peak gas surge is our patented Gas Saver System.  It is a simple, custom extruded, small ID, heavy wall gas delivery hose with a peak flow limiting orifice built into in the welder/feeder end brass fitting.  It maintains system pressure and therefore Automatic Flow Compensation.  The controlled small amount of extra gas it retains, quickly purges air from the weld  start zone and MIG gun nozzle.  Purging air from the weld start area and gun nozzle is essential for quality weld starts.

Some devices have been tried over the years that attempt to control flow at the wire feeder or welder to eliminate surge and have been rejected by welders! We used to agree with management believing welders just didn't care about "saving gas." Since forming WA Technology and working with a number of welders in production operations related to gas flow control we have found they were right! These devices such as Simple Orifices, Flowmeters or Regulators with Orifice Control that are mount at the wire feeder do not provide the needed extra start gas. Stauffer in a 1982 patented device discussed the issue and added a reservoir to hold and deliver some extra start gas! When encountering flow control at the wire feeder welders either drill out the orifice or if a flowmeter or regulator mounted at the wire feeder is being used they increase the steady state flow in attempt to compensate! They may not even know they are trying to provide some extra purge gas but they see the inferior weld start result and attempt to compensate for the lack of purge gas! Increasing the steady state flow DOES NOT fully solve the lack of some extra start gas and it WASTES RATHER THAN SAVES GAS! IT DEFEATS WHAT THE MANAGEMENT WAS ATTEMPTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

CLICK TO SEE DOCUMENTED CASES OF THE PROBLEMS WITH LACK OF START GAS

CLICK TO SEE WHY WE SELL DIRECTLY ON THE INTERNET AND NOT IN "STORES'"

The patented Gas Saver System :
1) Quickly supplies a controlled amount of extra start gas purge at each weld start and
2) Controls the maximum gas velocity of the extra start gas with a peak flow control orifice that avoids excess turbulence. 
Improved weld starts result.

Note, the peak flow control orifice does not control the steady state flow while welding - that is set by the existing conventional gas flow control device.  For cylinder gas supply that can be a regulator/flowmeter or a regulator/flowgauge. On pipeline supply it can be a flowmeter or simple orifice located at the pipeline drop. It will prevent setting very high excessive flow rates if that is an issue.

You can Google these names to see their contribution to the understanding of gas flow.  They may not have used the words "choked flow" but all would understand what it accomplished and why it would be needed in MIG welding flow controls!

Galileo Galile

1563-1642

Was one of the early contributors to understanding sound

 

Daniel Bernoulli

1700-1782

Pioneer in fluid mechanics.  We use his work to define how airplanes fly!

 

 

Robert Boyle

1627-1691

Herman Helmholtz

1821-1894

 

Ernest Mach

1838-1916

 

Osborne Reynolds

1842-1912

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't Tolerate Gas Leaks!  

Leaks work 24/7 and also allow moisture laden air to enter the gas pipeline.

 

Schematic-  Pipeline

Gas Supply

A= Liquid Tank

B= Economizer

C= Evaporator

D= Shut-off Valve

E= Pressure Gauge

F= Pipeline

G= Header

H= Pipeline Drops

I= OSHA Required Valves

J= Flowmeter

K=Gas Delivery Hose   (Preferable our      Gas Saver System)

L= MIG Feeder

 

Evaluating fabricators gas usage, some are wasting  considerably more shielding gas than the apparently accepted 3 to 5 times what they could use!  Many accept that they have pipeline and hose leaks.  However few have quantified how much gas these leaks are causing!
Pipeline Leaks:

We have defined a simple method of quantifying the amount of gas leaking from pipelines, gas delivery hoses, fittings and MIG feeders.

It is a Leak Down test used very effectively in regulator manufacture.

The method can be quickly  used as an ongoing check for leaks.

 

Our "Lean Welding Manufacturing-Shielding Gas" Learning Program defines this Leak Measurement approach as well as many other gas cost related issues.  It is a 70 + page document and includes an Excel Spreadsheet that helps make measuring gas leaks relatively easy. 

It also provides the following:

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Information on weld problems associated with excess gas use.

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Method to check gas flow rates at the MIG gun nozzle and compare flows entering the MIG feeder.

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Suggested approach to plot purchase data of wire and gas each month to keep a focus on gas waste problems and monitor results for each welding machine.

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Example tables show ways of developing  moving average purchase data of wire and gas that can be recorded and maintained.

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Ways to find leaks including using an Ultrasonic leak detector.

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Examples of fabricators gas usage and savings are detailed.

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Information showing why a 0.035 inch diameter leak in a 50 psi gas pipeline or hose can cost over $14,000/year

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5 pages of Questions and answers on separate sheets to evaluate comprehension of the information provided.

CLICK TO SEE PROGRAM DETAILS AND HOW TO PURCHASE

 

Cryogenic Tanks:

We receive a number of inquiries about liquid gas tank losses and questions such as; "Should pipelines be shut-off from the liquid supply over a weekend?"  Discussions with an engineer from the leading US cryogenic tank producer provided some interesting information.  However since most of these tanks are rented to a fabricator by the gas seller, the following is mostly useful in discussions with your supplier about the situation.

Liquid Argon is stored at about -300 deg F.  The storage tanks use several methods to insulate the very cold liquid.  They have an evaporation rate from about 1/2 %/day of their full rated volume (for modern new tanks) to 2 %/day or more for older tanks.  Therefore a 3,000 gallon tank (325,000 CF @ atmospheric pressure and temperature, STP) when not flowing gas will evaporate 6500 CF/day with a 2% evaporation rate and only 1600 CF/day with a 1/2 % evaporation rate.

Some newer higher efficiency tanks also incorporate an "Economizer Circuit" (Photo Right)  This is how it works: Cryogenic tanks operate at 125 psi.  They vent gas when the pressure exceeds 250 psi.  The pressure increases as heat inevitably enters the tank and evaporates some liquid.  The "Economizer Circuit" delivers the higher pressure gas to the pipeline (F in Schematic at top of page) before sending liquid to the Evaporator (D in above schematic.)  The system utilizes this gas rather than vent it to the atmosphere. These tanks can also retain Argon for a weekend without or with minimum venting to the atmosphere!  This assumes the tank is properly sized (not excessively large) and is, on average, half full. 

Bottom Line:

Disconnecting  a pipeline from the gas supply over a weekend requires significant purging on start-up to remove the moisture laden air that flowed back through the leaks.  The use of a modern cryogenic tank and fixing leaks is the proper solution!

 
 

Calculations of MIG Shielding Gas Use Are Bogus! 

They are often low by over 80% !

Test

 

First, evaluating the simplistic approach typically published:

General Assumptions:

  1. 0.035 diameter solid wire operating at 190 amps.  That deposits 5.5 lbs/hr when the arc is on.  Assume wire cost is $0.85/pound

  2. 30 CFH Shielding Gas flow setting.  Assume a cost of $0.10/cubic foot for an argon based gas (= $10.00/100 cubic feet)

  3. Direct Labor cost = $18.00/ hour

  4. Labor Overhead = 30% of Labor cost

NO Gas Waste Case: With the above assumptions and  no consideration for  shielding gas waste, the resulting weld cost  pie chart is shown on the left.  This is what is typically published as the method of calculating shielding gas costs.  It�s Bogus!

Shielding gas is shown as only 5 % of total cost  and less than wire costs which are 7%.  This is based on an unrealistic assumption of no gas waste.

 

High Waste Case: To evaluate a high waste case, assume gas waste is the high  side defined in the literature, i.e. gas usage is 6 times what is needed with a high duty cycle which reduces Labor Percentage

Shielding gas would now be 32% of welding costs!  Probably higher than actual unless your welders are also setting much to high a flow rate. 

 

Where Does the Extra Gas Come From and Go? 

Each time welding stops a significant amount of excess gas fills the delivery hose from gas source to feeder.  This excess is expelled at high velocity at every weld start.  An example of a fabricator who tested our Gas Saver System (GSSTM) provides a graphic picture of how much gas is wasted at the weld start. 

This manufacturer of truck boxes selected a repetitive job of welding doors.  They put a full cylinder of shielding gas on one welding system with the existing gas delivery hose.  They welded 236 doors with that cylinder.  They then put on a new full cylinder and our GSS with no changes in gas flow setting or welding procedures. When the cylinder was empty they had welded 632 doors!  That is 2.7 times more parts or said another way they were wasting 63% of the gas they were using!  Note: gas leaks, high gas flow settings etc, are not part of this test.  The savings they achieved were just from reduced gas surge at the weld start!

CLICK to SEE many more production examples at:

Another reason for gas waste is welders often believe �If some is good more must be better,� when it comes to setting gas flow rates.  With typical flowmeters we have measured 150 CFH flow at the MIG Gun nozzle when the needle valve was fully opened.  The article mentioned above (Reference 2 ) stated in hundreds of surveys he performed only 20% had settings that were at the correct level!  We have observed many MIG machines with the float ball pinned to the top of the tube!  We have a recently patented locking system that fits most flowmeters and blocks flow increases beyond what is desired.  CLICK to SEE this product.

Want to calculate your gas usage and define how much is waste?

CLICK to GO TO this web page and download the FREE �Guide to Saving Gas.�

Don�t feel badly if you find out your using far more gas than you should!  An  analysis done for a major fabricator showed they were wasting 83% of their Argon and 90% of their CO2!  In addition to  the high gas surge at the weld start they were setting excess flow rates and they also had leaks. 

Want information on how to measure and monitor leaks on an ongoing bases?  CLICK TO SEE our Lean Welding Manufacturing Self Study Programs related to gas usage. 

 

Click on Email ICON and ask for more information.

 

 

  1. Weber, R., How to Save 20% on Welding Costs. Trailer/Body Builders, Volume 44, Number 3, January 2003

  2. Standifer, L. R., Shielding Gas Consumption Efficiency. The Fabricator, Volume 30, Number 6, June 2000.

Tip of the Month

Why Welders "Love" Our GSS (And "Reject" Other Attempts to Control Gas Surge!)

 

Have Your Welders Rejected Previous Attempts at Using a Device that was Supposed to Save Shielding Gas? 

"They Were Probably Right!"

Did you try an Orifice mounted at the wire feeder to set gas flow rate?

This approach doesn't supply sufficient extra gas at the weld start to purge air from the torch nozzle and weld start area.  This causes excess spatter and poor starts.  Welders often drill them out in attempt to compensate.  That doesn't fully solve the lack of start gas problem and worse causes higher gas flow than needed when welding - wasting more gas!  See Why Some Use of an Orifice Gives False Impression of Saving Gas!

Have you tried a "Low Pressure" Regulator/Flowmeter or Regulator/Flowgauge?  

Some manufacturers label them "Non Compensated" which means you don't have the "Automatic Flow Compensation" built into MIG flow control systems since the process was invented in the 1950's!  Click to see what Automatic Flow Compensation is all about.   Understand  why you need it to keep your flow rate constant when spatter builds in the torch nozzle or when the torch cable with its small gas passage is twisted and bent as welders perform their normal work.  Welders may try to compensate for the inevitable flow changes by setting the steady state flow higher wasting gas!

Did you try a surge flow reducing device with Both Problems -  a Low Pressure Device Mounted at the Feeder? 

It not only doesn't deliver enough extra start gas, the low pressure eliminates "Automatic Flow Compensation."  See test results with this product that produced flow varying from 16 CFH to 37 CFH when subjected to a range of  flow restrictions that might be encountered in production. While the flow variations were occurring, the flow calibrated pressure gauge read a steady 31 CFH!  You would not know the flow variations were happening except for the inferior weld results!  Welders may set high flow rates to compensate for the low flow encountered when restrictions are present.

Be Careful - Some manufactures do not mention that the device uses low pressure to control flow.  See production problems reported with this system causing them to be  discarded.

Our Patented Gas Saver System (GSS ) has neither problem encountered with the above devices - or any other problems! (Picture shows Sue holding 25 GSS's  ready to be installed at a welding school.) 

First, it provides a controlled amount of extra gas at the weld start to quickly purge the torch nozzle and weld start area.  The extra gas flow rate is controlled to avoid excess turbulence with a surge flow limiting orifice. 

Second, It does not alter the system pressure so "Automatic Flow Compensation" is maintained as was  incorporated in quality flow control systems since MIG was invented in the 1950's!  This retains the preset flow when spatter builds in the torch nozzle and diffuser or as the small gas passage in the torch cable is bent and twisted as the welder moves.  Whatever flow the welder sets is  automatically maintained.

It does all this while reducing the amount a excess stored gas by over 80% compared to conventional gas delivery systems.  It is simple to install by replacing the existing gas delivery hose.  This is accomplished with no moving parts to wear or knobs for welders to adjust.  It improves weld start quality and does not interfere with the welders ability to set the gas flow desired. 

Thousands are in use in industrial fabrication shops with gas savings of 40 to 50% typically reported.  One customer provided their test data showing a 63% gas savings.  See 14 documented gas saving testimonials including detailed test data.

WELDERS LOVE THE RESULTS!  

SEE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE GSS WORKS.

 

First, evaluating the simplistic approach typically published:

General Assumptions:

  1. 0.035 diameter solid wire operating at 190 amps.  That deposits 5.5 lbs/hr when the arc is on.  Assume wire cost is $0.85/pound

  2. 30 CFH Shielding Gas flow setting.  Assume a cost of $0.10/cubic foot for an argon based gas (= $10.00/100 cubic feet)

  3. Direct Labor cost = $18.00/ hour

  4. Labor Overhead = 30% of Labor cost

 

Did you try an Orifice mounted at the wire feeder to set gas flow rate?

This approach doesn't supply sufficient extra gas at the weld start to purge air from the torch nozzle and weld start area.  This causes excess spatter and poor starts.  Welders often drill them out in attempt to compensate.  That doesn't fully solve the lack of start gas problem and worse causes higher gas flow than needed when welding - wasting more gas!  See Why Some Use of an Orifice Gives False Impression of Saving Gas!

 

Have you tried a "Low Pressure" Regulator/Flowmeter or Regulator/Flowgauge?  

Some manufacturers label them "Non Compensated" which means you don't have the "Automatic Flow Compensation" built into MIG flow control systems since the process was invented in the 1950's!  Click to see what Automatic Flow Compensation is all about.   Understand  why you need it to keep your flow rate constant when spatter builds in the torch nozzle or when the torch cable with its small gas passage is twisted and bent as welders perform their normal work.  Welders may try to compensate for the inevitable flow changes by setting the steady state flow higher wasting gas!

 

Tip of the Month

Why Welders "Love" Our GSS (And "Reject" Other Attempts to Control Gas Surge!)

 

Have Your Welders Rejected Previous Attempts at Using a Device that was Supposed to Save Shielding Gas? 

"They Were Probably Right!"

Did you try an Orifice mounted at the wire feeder to set gas flow rate?

This approach doesn't supply sufficient extra gas at the weld start to purge air from the torch nozzle and weld start area.  This causes excess spatter and poor starts.  Welders often drill them out in attempt to compensate.  That doesn't fully solve the lack of start gas problem and worse causes higher gas flow than needed when welding - wasting more gas!  See Why Some Use of an Orifice Gives False Impression of Saving Gas!

Have you tried a "Low Pressure" Regulator/Flowmeter or Regulator/Flowgauge?  

Some manufacturers label them "Non Compensated" which means you don't have the "Automatic Flow Compensation" built into MIG flow control systems since the process was invented in the 1950's!  Click to see what Automatic Flow Compensation is all about.   Understand  why you need it to keep your flow rate constant when spatter builds in the torch nozzle or when the torch cable with its small gas passage is twisted and bent as welders perform their normal work.  Welders may try to compensate for the inevitable flow changes by setting the steady state flow higher wasting gas!

Did you try a surge flow reducing device with Both Problems -  a Low Pressure Device Mounted at the Feeder? 

It not only doesn't deliver enough extra start gas, the low pressure eliminates "Automatic Flow Compensation."  See test results with this product that produced flow varying from 16 CFH to 37 CFH when subjected to a range of  flow restrictions that might be encountered in production. While the flow variations were occurring, the flow calibrated pressure gauge read a steady 31 CFH!  You would not know the flow variations were happening except for the inferior weld results!  Welders may set high flow rates to compensate for the low flow encountered when restrictions are present.

Be Careful - Some manufactures do not mention that the device uses low pressure to control flow.  See production problems reported with this system causing them to be  discarded.

Our Patented Gas Saver System (GSS ) has neither problem encountered with the above devices - or any other problems! (Picture shows Sue holding 25 GSS's  ready to be installed at a welding school.) 

First, it provides a controlled amount of extra gas at the weld start to quickly purge the torch nozzle and weld start area.  The extra gas flow rate is controlled to avoid excess turbulence with a surge flow limiting orifice. 

Second, It does not alter the system pressure so "Automatic Flow Compensation" is maintained as was  incorporated in quality flow control systems since MIG was invented in the 1950's!  This retains the preset flow when spatter builds in the torch nozzle and diffuser or as the small gas passage in the torch cable is bent and twisted as the welder moves.  Whatever flow the welder sets is  automatically maintained.

It does all this while reducing the amount a excess stored gas by over 80% compared to conventional gas delivery systems.  It is simple to install by replacing the existing gas delivery hose.  This is accomplished with no moving parts to wear or knobs for welders to adjust.  It improves weld start quality and does not interfere with the welders ability to set the gas flow desired. 

Thousands are in use in industrial fabrication shops with gas savings of 40 to 50% typically reported.  One customer provided their test data showing a 63% gas savings.  See 14 documented gas saving testimonials including detailed test data.

WELDERS LOVE THE RESULTS!  

SEE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE GSS WORKS.

 

First, evaluating the simplistic approach typically published:

General Assumptions:

  1. 0.035 diameter solid wire operating at 190 amps.  That deposits 5.5 lbs/hr when the arc is on.  Assume wire cost is $0.85/pound

  2. 30 CFH Shielding Gas flow setting.  Assume a cost of $0.10/cubic foot for an argon based gas (= $10.00/100 cubic feet)

  3. Direct Labor cost = $18.00/ hour

  4. Labor Overhead = 30% of Labor cost

Did you try a surge flow reducing device with Both Problems -  a Low Pressure Device Mounted at the Feeder? 

It not only doesn't deliver enough extra start gas, the low pressure eliminates "Automatic Flow Compensation."  See test results with this product that produced flow varying from 16 CFH to 37 CFH when subjected to a range of  flow restrictions that might be encountered in production. While the flow variations were occurring, the flow calibrated pressure gauge read a steady 31 CFH!  You would not know the flow variations were happening except for the inferior weld results!  Welders may set high flow rates to compensate for the low flow encountered when restrictions are present.

Be Careful - Some manufactures do not mention that the device uses low pressure to control flow.  See production problems reported with this system causing them to be  discarded.

 

Our Patented Gas Saver System (GSS ) has neither problem encountered with the above devices - or any other problems! (Picture shows Sue holding 25 GSS's  ready to be installed at a welding school.) 

First, it provides a controlled amount of extra gas at the weld start to quickly purge the torch nozzle and weld start area.  The extra gas flow rate is controlled to avoid excess turbulence with a surge flow limiting orifice. 

Second, It does not alter the system pressure so "Automatic Flow Compensation" is maintained as was  incorporated in quality flow control systems since MIG was invented in the 1950's!  This retains the preset flow when spatter builds in the torch nozzle and diffuser or as the small gas passage in the torch cable is bent and twisted as the welder moves.  Whatever flow the welder sets is  automatically maintained.

It does all this while reducing the amount a excess stored gas by over 80% compared to conventional gas delivery systems.  It is simple to install by replacing the existing gas delivery hose.  This is accomplished with no moving parts to wear or knobs for welders to adjust.  It improves weld start quality and does not interfere with the welders ability to set the gas flow desired. 

Thousands are in use in industrial fabrication shops with gas savings of 40 to 50% typically reported.  One customer provided their test data showing a 63% gas savings.  See 14 documented gas saving testimonials including detailed test data.

WELDERS LOVE THE RESULTS!  

SEE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE GSS WORKS.

 

 

Calculations of MIG Shielding Gas Use Are Bogus! 

They are often low by over 80% !

Typical welding cost calculations show MIG shielding gas is 4 to 5% of the total welding cost.  That�s an approach employed if your selling gas!

The method often used to �estimate� shielding gas usage is to state, as an example: "If the flow rate is 35 CFH and the duty cycle is 30% (30% of the day the arc is actually on, versus fitting a joint, moving to the weld location, chipping etc.)   That means each welder is using 35 CFH x 8 hr work day x 30% arc on time or 84 cubic feet of gas used per day.  Sound right?  It's way off! 

Gas Use is in Reality - Far More! Why??

Reviewing what two published reports say about the amount of MIG shielding gas used by the average fabricator. An article in Trailer Body Builders magazine quotes a representative from Praxair indicating their market survey findings show the average fabricator using MIG welding consumes 6 times the amount of shielding gas theoretically needed.  (Reference 1)

Another article in The Fabricator magazine confirmed this finding of up to 6 times the needed shielding gas  being used in fabrication shops. This article discuses and quantifies a major reason for gas waste being the high gas flow surge at the weld start. He also states companies can cut their gas use in half. (Reference 2)

 

Useable Flow Rates

Minimum and Maximum Suggested Flow Rate Ranges

A number of variables effect the minimum and maximum usable flow rate. These include:

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welding current

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torch nozzle size

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joint type (fillet welds require less than butt welds)

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environment (drafts etc)

Considering typical environments the following are suggested:

  1. For a 1/2 Inch ID Nozzle;
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    Minimum Flow Range =  20 to 25 CFH

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    Maximum Flow Range =  40 to 45 CFH

  2. For a 5/8 Inch ID Nozzle;
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    Minimum Flow Range =  25 to 30 CFH

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    Maximum Flow Range =  50 to 60 CFH

  3. For a 3/4 Inch ID Nozzle;
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    Minimum Flow Range =  35 to 40 CFH

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    Maximum Flow Range =  60 to 70 CFH

     

High Surge Flow at Weld Start

Reviewing the above data it becomes obvious that the high flow surge at the weld start causes air to be pulled into the shielding gas stream and creates inferior weld starts.  Osborn Reynolds found in his early work that once started, Turbulent flow takes a short time to return to Laminar flow after the flow rate is returned to a Laminar flow level.

One visible result of the highly turbulent shielding gas flow at the weld start is excess weld spatter.  In a number of applications we have measured 200 to 250 CFH surge flow at the weld start (systems with longer hoses and/or higher pressures.)  This not only wastes gas but also causes inferior weld starts and internal if not external weld porosity.  The accompanying graph shows the start surge flow with a standard 25 foot, 1/4 inch ID gas delivery hose and a 5/8 inch ID torch nozzle.  Note, the blue line shows flow with a standard gas delivery hose with the peak flow at 140 CFH.  It exceeds the 60 CFH maximum suggested flow rate for about 2 seconds. The graph in green was made with the same flow settings and same length  Gas Saver System.  Note the peak flow is about 60 CFH and quickly falls below 50 CFH.  In addition to saving about 80% of the gas waste each time the torch switch is pulled,  it still provides some extra gas at the weld start to purge the weld start area, etc. (SEE WHY EXTRA GAS AT THE WELD START IS IMPORTANT.)  In addition the Gas Saver System does not alter the delivery hose pressure so Automatic Flow Compensation is maintained; a feature built into MIG gas delivery systems since the introduction of that welding process.  (CLICK TO SEE WHAT AUTOMATIC FLOW COMPENSATION IS ABOUT ) One fabricator performing weld repairs found significant reduction in their weld start rejects when our Gas Saver System was used.  CHECK OUT THE SPECIFICS.

 

MIG shielding gas surge at the weld start is recognized as causing problems.  Attempts have been made over the years to control the high flow start surge to reduce:

1. Turbulence that causes moisture laden air to be drawn into the shielding gas stream creating excess starting spatter and internal weld porosity.

2. Gas waste that accompanies the start gas surge (we have found this can be 50+% of overall gas usage!)

 

The patented Gas Saver System (GSS ) is the first device to solve problems associated with gas surge without causing further problems! It increases weld start quality while providing a total shielding gas savings up to 50+%!

Example of a welder that "Loves" our GSS

Welders love the system since it:

1. Does not limit their options or interfere with their ability to adjust the steady state gas flow (If you want to limit flow adjustment see our patent pending Flow Rate Limiter.)

2. Improves weld starts by limiting peak surge flow rate to a level that does not create excess turbulence in the shielding gas stream. Sufficient extra gas is delivered at the weld start to purge the torch nozzle and start area of moisture laden air.

3. Maintains preset gas flow rate even when spatter builds in the torch nozzle or the torch gas hose becomes bent and twisted in the normal course of doing their job (this is what is referred to as �Automatic Flow Compensation" even though most welders and even some welding engineers never heard of the term!)

4. Is of rugged construction with a very heavy wall thickness, fiber reinforcement hose allowing it to be dragged on the shop flow without excess wear.  It can be stepped on without restricting gas flow!

5. Has no knobs to adjust or moving parts to wear or require maintenance.

 

However other attempts to solve start gas surge problems are frequently rejected since they produce unacceptable results.  Not understanding the relatively complex cause of these issues has frustrated welding foreman and welding engineers to blame welder attitude - when the welder was actually right!

A review of some of the problems created by past attempts at solving weld start surge flow and gas waste follows:

 

Use of Fixed Orifice to Limit Surge Flow

A simple surge flow restriction orifice can be added to the wire feeder to limit high gas surge at the weld start (we have measured surge peaks over 250 CFH in some applications which is much higher than the level needed to avoid excess turbulence!)  On the surface sounds like a reasonable way to limit peak flow, but it creates other problems!  The restrictor can be implemented in two ways:

  1. The surge limiting orifice can be sized to limit peak flow while still controlling the steady state flow at the gas cylinder with a regulator/flowmeter of regulator flowgauge or at a pipeline gas drop using a flowmeter. 

a. Properly sized this can work to reduce the undesirable effects of gas surge and improve weld start quality. However even if sized correctly when welding stops gas still builds in the delivery hose from gas supply to feeder.  It is still wasted when welding starts!  However rather than in a very short time with the very high gas surge it flows at the higher than steady state setting until the excess gas is gone.  The waste still occurs it just takes somewhat longer and is less obvious! 

b. However we often find the orifice size is selected so the peak surge flow is set too low to fully purge the weld start area of moisture laden air.  The high flow surge that caused start problems is eliminated but moisture laden air is still in the start area and causes similar weld start quality problems!  Stauffer in his 1982 patent clearly defined this need, See what Stauffer said.  Welders often can see this problem and counter by drilling out the orifice to �get more gas.�  What they are doing is counterproductive but they are seeing the poor initial gas shielding and trying to solve the problem.  See a production example of a similar problem solved with our GSS.

  1. Another way an orifice is implemented is to select a size that not only controls peak start surge flow but also sets the steady state flow rate.  Now there is not enough extra gas at the weld start which creates a greater  problem (defined in 1 (b) above.)  See a production example of this problem solved with our GSS

In addition to insufficient gas at the weld start to purge the weld start area, torch nozzle, etc (often causing welders to drill out the added orifice); if on a pipeline gas supply as the pressure reduces when additional welders are in use the flow rate changes.

 

Use of Low Pressure Devices to Reduce Surge

Like the use of a restriction orifice this approach sounds like a reasonable way to limit peak flow, but it creates other problems!  These devices can be implemented in several ways:

  1. A low pressure device can be used on a cylinder supply as a regulator/flowgauge.  These devices generally operate at from 5 to 9 psi to achieve the desired surge reduction effect.  However MIG (and TIG) gas supply systems were designed to operate at above 25 psi for a very good reason; to maintain preset flow even when inevitable restrictions occur in production.  These restrictions occur due to spatter build-up in the torch nozzle and gas diffuser,  bent and twisted torch cables, debris accumulated in the torch gas passage, etc.  Flow control with these low pressure devices is being set by an orifice in the regulator/flowgauge.  To maintain flow when system restrictions occur the flow control must act as a critical orifice.  To do that the pressure up-stream of the flow restriction orifice must be greater than 2 times the downstream pressures.  Both measured as �absolute pressure, i.e. gauge pressure plus 14.7 psi.   Typical pressure needed at the feeder to flow the required MIG gas is about 5 psi or about 20 psi absolute.  Therefore the pressure upstream of the orifice must be about 40 psi absolute or 25 psi gauge (40 � 15.)  That is what the minimum pressure in most regulator/flowmeters has been 25 psi or greater since the MIG process was introduced in the 1950�s!  See �Automatic Flow Compensation" for a full explanation of this phenomena.
  2. The second way these low pressure devices are used is to place them at the feeder.  This not only has the problem outlined in the previous paragraph but also provides insufficient gas at the weld start to properly purge the weld start area of gas.  Stauffer in his 1982 patent clearly defined this need, See what Stauffer said.  The following is an example of tests run with a Conventional Regulator Flowmeter using a 25 psi regulator and for comparison a commercial Low Pressure Device that uses a low pressure regulator mounted at the feeder.  In this case to flow the desired preset gas of 31 CFH required a regulator setting at 9 psi (defined by installing a test pressure gauge).  This particular device incorporates a pressure gauge (upstream of an orifice) calibrated to read flow.  Both systems were set to flow 31 CFH and then no adjustments were made as if they were locked (see data in green).  Torch restrictions were then varied to simulate the addition and elimination of spatter in the nozzle and gas diffuser.

Flow Control System

  <         Typical Production Restriction Range; psi        >

3 psi

4 psi

5 psi

6 psi

7 psi

8 psi

Conventional = 25 psi

31 CFH

31 CFH

31 CFH

31 CFH

31 CFH

31 CFH

Low Pressure; 9 psi

37 CFH

34 CFH

31 CFH

27 CFH

23 CFH

16 CFH

Note the Conventional Regulator Flowmeter maintained the preset 31 CFH without interaction by the welder.  However with the Low Pressure Device flow varied  from a high of 37 CFH to a low of 16 CFH!  While this occurred the flow calibrated pressure gauge continued to read 31 CFH since it was really only reading pressure and gives no indication to the welder, welding foreman or welding engineer that flows change!  Only measuring at the torch is the flow change detectable.

This testimonial is from a welding engineer at an automotive OEM who removed and discarder 32 of these low pressure systems that mounted at their wire feeders after he discovered the inaccuracy�s of controlling flow with this approach.:

 

�A welding engineer at a major automotive sub supplier reports that after purchasing and using 32 low pressure gas saving devices that mounted at their wire feeders he had to discard all of them!  He reported two problems:

 

  1. Lack of sufficient extra gas at the start made inferior starts and

  2. Large flow variations from preset levels were evident when he would check flow at the torch.  He stated; "Even if the flow was blocked, the flow calibrated pressure gauge supplied with these devices had the same preset reading!"

 

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